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			<title><![CDATA[Update on Reservation & Carrying Firearms]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 00:59:24 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Carry on Native American Reservations is full of dangers. Their ordinances cover their  members and those who live on their reservation.  Some also...</description>
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<div>Carry on Native American Reservations is full of dangers. Their ordinances cover their  members and those who live on their reservation.  Some also have ordinances against carry concealed firearms even if you have a permit/license issue by the state the Reservation is in. I have been told numerous times that if they find someone with a Concealed firearm the least they will do is confiscate it.  The attached PDF file expands on my research on Tribal Codes. These are the ordinances I could find concerning carrying firearms on the listed Reservations.  About 60 of the 800 or so Tribes the US Government recognizes have their ordinance on line that I could find.  Every entry has a link to that tribes ordinances for you to check on yourself.  The list is broken down by state. There are a couple double entries as a couple reservations are in two different states. <br />
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I hope you find this info useful. I would appreciate if you know of any Tribes not listed that have a website and have their ordinances on line or you have a copy of their ordinances if you would drop me an email at <a href="mailto:admins@handgunlaw.us">admins@handgunlaw.us</a></div>


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			<dc:creator>Gary Slider</dc:creator>
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			<title>Long Island Man Arrested For Defending Home With AK-47</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 23:04:52 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>At first I think of NEW YORK CITY (salsa commercial) and then think only in New York can something like this happen then California comes to mind! 
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<div>At first I think of NEW YORK CITY (salsa commercial) and then think only in New York can something like this happen then California comes to mind!<br />
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If you have a gang gathering on your property making threats to you and your family, why in the world would anyone not respond to defend.<br />
Is it such an issue that there had to be more then a show of force and threats? the paper mentioned it has to be force against force.<br />
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In Washington State we have;<br />
<blockquote><b>WPIC 16.07 Justifiable Homicide—Actual Danger Not Necessary</b><br />
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A person is entitled to act on appearances in defending <i>[himself]</i><i>[herself]</i><i>[another]</i>, if that person believes in good faith and on reasonable grounds that <i>[he]</i><i>[she]</i><i>[another]</i>  is in actual danger of great personal injury, although it afterwards  might develop that the person was mistaken as to the extent of the  danger.<br />
Actual danger is not necessary for a homicide to be justifiable.<br />
<b>NOTE ON USE</b><br />
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Use  this instruction with WPIC 16.02, Justifiable Homicide—Defense of Self  and Others, and WPIC 16.03, Resistance to Felony, when appropriate.<br />
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				<b>UNIONDALE, N.Y. (CBS 2)</b> — He was arrested for protecting his property and family.<br />
 But it’s how the Long Island man did it that police say crossed the line.<br />
 He got a high powered AK-47 and pulled the trigger and he ended up in jail, reports CBS 2’s Pablo Guzman.<br />
 George Grier said he had to use his rifle on Sunday night to stop  what he thought was going to be an invasion of his Uniondale home by a  gang he thought might have been the vicious “MS-13.” He said the whole  deal happened as he was about to drive his cousin home.<br />
 “I went around and went into the house, ran upstairs and told my wife  to call the police. I get the gun and I go outside and I come into the  doorway and now, by this time, they are in the driveway, back here near  the house. I tell them, you know, ‘Can you please leave?’ Grier said.<br />
 Grier said the five men dared him to use the gun; and that their  shouts brought another larger group of gang members in front of his  house.<br />
 “He starts threatening my family, my life. ‘Oh you’re dead. I’m gonna  kill your family and your babies. You’re dead.’ So when he says that,  20 others guys come rushing around the corner. And so I fired four  warning shots into the grass,” Grier said.<br />
 Grier was later arrested. John Lewis is Grier’s attorney.
			
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			<dc:creator>Big Dave</dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[WV/WY & DE/SC Sign Reciprocity Agreements. CT Park/Forest Carry]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 23:21:02 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>West Virginia and Wyoming have signed a reciprocity agreement as have Delaware and South Carolina. WV has updated their listing while WY has not. DE...</description>
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<div>West Virginia and Wyoming have signed a reciprocity agreement as have Delaware and South Carolina. WV has updated their listing while WY has not. DE has updated their listing adding SC but SC has not updated their official list. WY and SC are two of the slowest states in updating their lists. <br />
I have heard from the Connecticut DEP who oversees their State Parks and Forests. There is wording in their Admin Rules about firearms that could have many different meanings. Handgunlaw.us has to go with what those in charge state the rules mean. I talked to Sgt Tomassone and he did follow up with something in writing.  Below is the email I received from the the CT DEP EnCon Police. <br />
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Gary,<br />
Thank you for your question about handgun carry in CT State Parks and Forests.<br />
CGS 23-4-1(c) Hunting/weapons.<br />
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Hunting or carrying of firearms, archery equipment or other weapons,<br />
including but not limited to air rifles and slingshots, is not permitted in any<br />
state park or forest except as authorized by the Department of Environmental<br />
Protection.  <b>All carrying or use of weapons is subject to applicable provisions<br />
of the Connecticut General Statutes and regulations adopted there under.</b><br />
The short answer to your question is no, a CT Permit to Carry does not allow a Permit holder to carry in a State Park or Forest.<br />
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Regarding your question about the highlighted (Bold Print in this copy)  sentence, this means that if a person is statutorily allowed to have a firearm in a certain Park or Forest, that person must have met all other requirements to carry such firearm.  An example would be someone hunting deer where it is allowed with a shotgun could not be a convicted felon as felons are not allowed to possess firearms under CGS 53a-217.<br />
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There are some Parks and most Forests in CT where small game hunting is allowed with handguns (.22 caliber rim-fire) and a person hunting with a handgun would need a CT Permit to Carry.<br />
I hope this answers your questions.  If you have further questions please feel free to contact me again.  Thanks,<br />
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Sgt. Matt Tomassone<br />
DEP EnCon Police</div>


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			<title>Pistol Packing Granny</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 00:58:11 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>An  elderly woman keeps a handgun under her pillow, and shot a teenage intruder in her home. 
  
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<div>An  elderly woman keeps a handgun under her pillow, and shot a teenage intruder in her home.<br />
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